14 CFR § 65.77 · ELIGIBILITY
Experience and eligibility for an FAA A&P
18 months of documented practical experience for one rating, or 30 months working on both at the same time for an A&P. Or you can use an authenticated graduation document from a certificated Part 147 school. And the rule that costs people the most time: training does not count. Only time spent actually performing maintenance counts, which rules out technical school, apprenticeship classroom hours and anything else where you were being taught rather than turning wrenches.
Checked against the current regulations on 19 August 2026.
18 months, or 30
§ 65.77(b) asks for documentary evidence, satisfactory to the Administrator, of either at least 18 months of practical experience with the procedures, practices, materials, tools, machine tools and equipment generally used in constructing, maintaining or altering airframes or powerplants, appropriate to the rating sought, or at least 30 months of practical experience concurrently performing the duties appropriate to both ratings.
Read the second one carefully. It is not 18 plus 18. Two separate stints on airframes and then on powerplants are not 30 months of concurrent work, which is what the rule asks for. And it is 30, not 36. The 36 is a figure that gets passed around, and it is wrong.
A month is judged against roughly 160 hours, an average 40 hour week. But that is a test of whether a month counts, never a total you can pile up early. The FAA has answered an applicant offering the hours in half the calendar time, and the answer was no. That figure, and every other load-bearing number on the route, sits beside the rule that sets it on the FAA A&P facts and figures page.
What the FAA will and will not accept toward an A&P
There is no set logbook and no FAA form for the experience itself. What matters is that an inspector can look at what you bring and see that you did the work. The FAA names these:
- Pay receipts for tasks accomplished
- A record of work signed by a certificated mechanic. It can be several different mechanics, not one supervisor
- A statement from a certificated repairman at an air carrier or repair station
- A maintenance log signed by the supervising mechanic, employer statements, training records
A good way to organize it: the FAA suggests listing your experience against at least 50% of the subject areas in the Airman Certification Standards for the rating you want. That gives an inspector something to check against instead of a pile to read.
⚠ The FAA’s own page is stale on this point. It still tells readers to use “part 147 appendices B, C and D” for the subject list. Those appendices were deleted outright when Part 147 was rewritten, effective 21 September 2022. Use the ACS subject areas instead.
What is not accepted: time spent in training, civilian or military. The FAA says so in as many words, and the reason is not red tape. The point of the months is that you have made real mistakes on real aircraft and fixed them, which a classroom cannot give you.
If you maintained aircraft in the service
There are two paths, and which one you are on decides whether you visit a FSDO.
With a JSAMTCC certificate of eligibility. If you completed Joint Service Aviation Maintenance Technician Certification Council training and hold a certificate of eligibility, the FAA considers you to have met § 65.77 for the rating listed on it. You are authorized to test with no further FAA endorsement.
Without one. An acceptable military occupational specialty gets you a FSDO appointment, not a pass. You bring a DD Form 214 showing the specialty and length of service in it, plus a letter from an executive officer, maintenance officer, classification officer or a supervisor holding an A&P, certifying your length of service, the time worked in each maintenance occupation, the makes and models involved and where the work was done.
One caution, because you will hear otherwise: the FAA does not name a Joint Services Transcript on its own as a document that authorizes testing. The documents it names are the certificate of eligibility, the DD Form 214 and the officer’s letter. And the same rule applies here as everywhere else: time in technical school does not count toward the months.
You cannot just book an A&P test
This is the step that catches applicants on the experience route, because pilots do all of this online and mechanics do not. Before any test center will book you, you need two things. The first is an FAA Tracking Number from IACRA. For mechanics that is the only thing IACRA is used for, since it does not accept mechanic certificate applications at all. The second is authorization to test, in one of exactly three forms:
- An original FAA Form 8610-2 with block V signed by an FAA aviation safety inspector
- An authenticated graduation document from a school certificated by the FAA (14 CFR § 147.21)
- A military (JSAMTCC) Certificate of Eligibility
FAA Form 8610-2 is still paper and still current, edition 04/26. Fill out two originals, and keep both. The test center scans them and hands them back, and you show them again to the examiner at the oral and practical. Section V is the FAA endorsement. An inspector signs it, not you.
A Part 147 graduate never makes this trip. Their school’s authenticated document under § 147.21 is the authorization. That is one of the real differences between the two routes, and it is weighed on the next page.
One more rule about order, from § 65.75(b): you must pass every written section before you apply for the oral and practical. The only exception is § 65.80, for a school student whose progress an FAA inspector has accepted. And every test, written and practical, has to land inside the same 24 month window.
Questions people actually ask
Q.01How many months of experience do you need for an A&P?
30 months if you want both ratings, working on airframes and powerplants at the same time. 18 months if you want one rating alone, in work that fits that rating. Those are the figures in 14 CFR § 65.77(b). Note the second is not half the first: two separate 18 month stretches do not add up to 30 months of work on both at once.
Q.02Does training time count toward the 18 or 30 months?
No, and this catches more people than any other rule here. The FAA is clear that practical experience means actually performing maintenance, and that time spent in training does not count toward either the months or the experience. That applies to military technical school and to civilian courses alike. A Part 147 program is not "experience you paid tuition for". It is the OTHER route. It replaces these months instead of counting toward them.
Q.03Can you compress the months by working more hours?
No. The FAA puts a month at an average of 160 hours, based on a 40 hour week. But that is a yardstick for whether a month counts, not a total you can reach early. Asked about an applicant offering 3,120 hours inside twelve months, the FAA answered that Part 65 does not provide for anything less than 18 months for a single rating. It counts calendar months.
Q.04What documents does the FAA accept as evidence for an A&P?
There is no single required form of proof. The FAA names pay receipts for tasks you did; a record of work signed by a certificated mechanic, which can be several different mechanics rather than one supervisor; a statement from a certificated repairman verifying work at an air carrier or repair station; and maintenance logs, employer statements and training records. Its own advisory circular suggests listing your experience against at least 50% of the subject areas in the Airman Certification Standards for the rating you want.
Q.05Do you have to go to a FSDO for an A&P?
On the experience route, yes. An Airworthiness Aviation Safety Inspector, who holds an A&P themselves, looks at your evidence and, if satisfied, signs block V of FAA Form 8610-2. That signature is your authorization to test, and no test center will book you without one of the three accepted forms of it. A Part 147 graduate skips this entirely. Their school's authenticated graduation document IS the authorization.
Q.06I have an EASA Part-66 license. Does it convert?
No. There is no conversion route and no credit. The FAA says a certificate or license from another country does not exempt you from its eligibility requirements or from the A&P tests. You still document § 65.77, still take all the knowledge tests, and still take the oral and practical. Your logged work may well help you prove the months, and what you know will make the studying faster, but neither one shortens the process on paper.
Read next in the FAA A&P guide
This page covers one part of the route to your FAA A&P. The other pages cover the rest.
- How to get your FAA A&P mechanic certificateThe whole route on one page
- Part 147 school or experienceShould you go to a Part 147 school or document your own experience for an FAA A&P?
Or look one thing up
The reference pages under the guide each answer one question, for when what you want is the number rather than the explanation.
- What the FAA A&P costsHow much do the A&P mechanic tests cost, and what does the FAA itself charge?
- FAA A&P pass ratesHow hard are the A&P mechanic written tests, in the FAA's own pass rate figures?
- FAA A&P facts and figuresEvery load-bearing FAA A&P number on one page, with the regulation that sets it.
- FAA A&P glossaryWhat the FAA A&P terms mean: AMG, AMA, AMP, ACS, AKTR, DME, IA, FTN and the rest.
Read the documents, not us
Every fact on this page was read from these on 19 August 2026. They are the authority and we are the summary. If we and one of them disagree, they are right.
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